Helen Zille left her husband, sons and grandchildren in Cape Town to chase what she calls one of the toughest jobs of her career: Mayor of Johannesburg.
In this wide-ranging conversation with Alec Hogg, she explains why she'd rather walk straight into opposition than repeat the "extortion" coalition deals that helped bring Joburg to its knees.
She takes on the DA's Mark Burke controversy and reveals what Henry Kissinger once told her about the DA's chances on the African continent.
Blunt, unscripted, and not without a fight.
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